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Meeting Minutes

Weekly Meeting Virtual User Interface Team


January 31th 2002


10:00h, MEST


Cupertino, eham-02


Christian Lippka (CL)
Peter Burow (PB)
Gunnar Timm (GT)
Christian Jansen (CJ)
Daniel Rentz (DR)
Oliver Specht (OS)
Frank Schönheit (FS)

Minute Taker

Frank Schönheit (next: PB, DR, GT, CL, OS, FS)

Distribution List


1 Action Items

1.1 Comments on Action Items

2 Status

3 Misc

3.1 Description for Gallery Items

3.2 Keyboard Access to the Gallery

3.3 Resize of Dialogs

4 Bottom Line

4.1 Abbreaviations

1 Action Items




Create a concept of Common UI factory design



Determine what to do for Accessibility


in progress

Determine whether base classes for the Accessibility API will be provided (1)



Determine whether a description for gallery elements is necessary



1.1 Comments on Action Items

  1. As it rose during another meeting regarding accessibility base classes, these do not make sense at all - the requirements are too different. At least this holds for application-spanning accessibility implementations.

2 Status

3 Misc

3.1 Description for Gallery Items

There was a discussion whether it would make sense for the gallery component to provide a description (as XAccessibleContext::getAccessibleDescription) for every entry (question was raised by CJ). There were different opinions about this, most attendees agreed that it may be a requirement to provide at least the possibility to do so. This would mean additional implementation effort: As the gallery content is currently stored in a database (Berkely DB), this needs to be extended; in addition maybe a user interface for changing these descriptions must be provided.

CJ will clarify the necessity for this feature.

3.2 Keyboard Access to the Gallery

CJ asked whether there are concrete ideas how to use the gallery without a mouse. The most issues (like local navigation) can be solved using the usual VCL mechanisms, but what about the DnD of an element into the document?
OS told us that this should work using the clipboard - the functionallity is already there.

3.3 Resizing of Dialogs

CJ started a poll about the resize of dialog fonts. Currently, when the user changes the system settings for the font size, this applies to the whole OOo application: Not only the window titles etc., but also complete dialogs (including content) are resized. This is inconsistent with the system behaviour (at least on windows), where this settings affects only window titles, but not window (especially dialog) content. In particular, Windows does not offer a setting for the dialog content - it is always sized according to the system wide font size ("large fonts" vs. "small fonts") settings.

The attendees agreed that due to this inconsistency, it would make sense to change the behaviour of OOo so that the system setting affects window titles only, not content.

If, somewhere in the future, the system(s) provide(s) a possibility to change the window content font size independent on the window title font size, this needs to be re-integrated in OOo then.

4 Bottom Line

4.1 Abbreaviations

AT - Assistive Technologie

VCL - visual component library - base library used for visualizing OOo to the user

DnD - Drag and Drop

OOo -

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