Issue 87304 - Add row/column info to number values in 'Insert Table' scheme opened from Toolbar Icon
Summary: Add row/column info to number values in 'Insert Table' scheme opened from Too...
Status: CONFIRMED
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Product: ui
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.4.0
Hardware: All All
: P3 Minor (vote)
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Reported: 2008-03-20 18:41 UTC by dudson
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:44 UTC (History)
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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Latest Confirmation in: 4.0.1
Developer Difficulty: Simple

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2013-10-31 06:05 UTC, Rainer Bielefeld 		no flags Details
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Description dudson 2008-03-20 18:41:18 UTC 
In OOo writer, OOo displays information about numbers of rows and columns on the
button, this is very inconvenient when going just out of screen, would be handy
to go outside screen for making a table larger than you can see but still have
control and feetback over it. 

In Maths (in Europe) we learn that in a table first the number of rows is
mentioned and then the number of columns. OOo does this the other way around.

(Start writer and click on the button to make a new table and play a little bit
graphically.) For people who haven't seen it yet, if you have the insert toolbar
and the table button there is a little arrow in the icon, to go to the way I'm
mentioning. You have to click the arrow.

Just to be sure it would be a very good idea to mention the words "rows" and
"columns" just behind or before the numbers.
Comment 1 dudson 2008-03-20 18:43:41 UTC 
Mayby this is something to add in ODF 1.2 .
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2013-10-31 06:05:32 UTC 
Created attachment 81848 [details]
Screenshots showing problem and possible solution

Still Reproducible with server installation of "AOO 4.1.0-Dev – English  UI / German locale - [AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1536316 - 2013-10-30]" on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)", own separate user profile.:

1. Open new Writer document from AOO start center
2. In Standard Toolbar long click on "Insert Table" icon
   > Table scheme with few rows and columns and "Cancel" footer appears
3. Move mouse pointer somewhere into the table sheme
   > Table area will be highlighted, "Columns x Rows" in footer below 
     table scheme
  
Problem: for large tables "54 x 55" it's not clear whether that means
"54 rows x 55 columns" or "54 columns x 55 rows"

Possible solutions: 
(a) a small graphic icon nearby the numbers illustrating whether number 
    means number of rows or number of columns.
(b) Text information "54 columns x 55 rows". Desadvantage: localization related
    minimum size of table scheme required
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld 2013-10-31 06:10:15 UTC 
Attachment shows situation in Writer, corresponding solution required for Draw and Impress
Comment 4 dudson 2013-11-18 21:17:58 UTC 
The solution can be made better visible if you use a simple horizontal and vertical stick with the numbers. The sticks need to look distinct from the numbers as not to confuse them with being part of the numbers though.

Would just adding the text "row" and "column" with the numbers be a good solution?
Comment 5 Marcus 2017-05-20 10:44:22 UTC 
Reset the assignee to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".