Issue 78160 - Styles improvement.
Summary: Styles improvement.
Status: CLOSED WONT_FIX
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Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.4
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Keywords: needmoreinfo
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Reported: 2007-06-06 23:43 UTC by billcase
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:03 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description billcase 2007-06-06 23:43:16 UTC
Styles, of course, is an extremely important component of OOo.  But it has taken
me over a year to understand how to use it.  My problems, in the end, were
related to my understanding of what the word "style" meant in plain language
versus what it means in OOo. Therefore what I was trying to accomplish in OOo
was in fact impossible.

I want to name a whole set of subsidieary styles one name e.g. "Speeches".  To
me the word 'style' means a group or set of configurations that add up to one
style (or 'style list').  To the "Speeches" style list, I would add one heading
style called "Title"; one paragraph style for "First Page"; a default page style
for all subsequent pages. (Perhaps one or two others as I found a need).  I
would like to remove all other default styles from the "Speeches" style list.

I would like to save my "Speehes" style list in a Speeches template so that when
I open the "Speeches" Template only the "Speehes" style would be available and
would show in the dropdown icon on the format bar; replacing default and all its
extra styles which would not be needed in the "Speeches" template.

Not only does it seem logical to me, I spent several hours trying to make this
work becasue it seemed so natural to me that that was the way it should work. 
None of my googling and manual reading said that it shouldn't work that way.

Because I beleive that this is a normal and natural way for a writter to work, I
 am asking for an enhancement that would allow this kind of creation of an
overall style.

Regards, Bill
Comment 1 thorsten.martens 2007-06-07 09:13:10 UTC
TM->requirements: Please have a look, thanks !
Comment 2 Mathias_Bauer 2007-06-08 11:14:16 UTC
Isn't that what others call "themes"? Or did I misunderstand your RFE?
Comment 3 cno 2007-06-18 23:01:00 UTC
added myself as cc
Comment 4 billcase 2007-06-19 02:49:37 UTC
To mba;

I have searched the OOo online help and the Writer guide and could find no
reference to "Themes" so I don't know whether what I am asking for is a theme or
not.  I suspect not.  To put it simply; I just want to be able to create an
over-arching style that contains only the sub-styles I create or borrow from OOo
and be able to attach that over-arching style to a template as that templates
default style.

As someone who writes a lot, I want it my way with no one else's sense of style
getting in the way.

Regards Bill,
Comment 5 cno 2007-06-19 07:31:14 UTC
Hi Bill,
- It is possible to create your own templates, in which you can change
properties of existing styles as well as add your own styles.
- In the window Styles and Formatting (F11, or the button left of the box Apply
Style) you can choose to have only your own styles displayed (selection list at
the bottom of the window).
If I understand you right, this is part of what you ask.

- What is not possible atm - again, if I understand you right - is the idea that
you can choose which styles are shown in the box Apply Style.

Is this the idea?
Thanks,
Cor
Comment 6 billcase 2007-06-19 09:31:51 UTC
To Cor Nouws:

Basically yes.  Here are the differences.

- It is possible to create your own templates, in which you can change
properties of existing styles as well as add your own styles.  -- YES

- In the window Styles and Formatting (F11, or the button left of the box Apply
Style) you can choose to have only your own styles displayed (selection list at
the bottom of the window). -- ALMOST YES.

'Applied' shows all my created or self-written styles, even those styles created
for the purposes of another type of document.  I would like to be able to add a
name to each different distinct set of styles, so that when I went to the
selection list at the bottom of the window, one of the choices I would have
would be my own set, e.g. "Speeches" I could choose instead of "Applied". 

N.B. some of the sub-styles chosen must include default styles if that is what I
need to complete this new set of "Applied/Speeches" styles.

- What is not possible atm - again, if I understand you right - is the idea that
you can choose which styles are shown in the box Apply Style.  -- YES kinda.

If, saved with a template, I would like the "Speeches" style-set name and
sub-styles to appear in the Apply Box on the toolbar and in the Styles and
Formatting window at the bottom  persistently (unless I deliberately change the
Styles name at the bottom of the Styles and Formatting window) whenever I open
the "Speeches" template.

I hope the lack of distinct names for style objects is not confusing things. If
needed I could write out a concrete example with all sub-style names and
contents detailed, all objects, windows or boxes, simply named and include
screen shots.

Regards Bill
Comment 7 Edwin Sharp 2014-02-19 12:12:41 UTC
Please attach example.
Comment 8 Edwin Sharp 2014-03-03 13:08:38 UTC
No info from author.