Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 7719
Inconsistent behavior for insert->horizontal line
Last modified: 2013-02-07 22:39:23 UTC
In the interest of making OpenOffice even better I offer this suggestion: Inserting a "plain" horizontal line changes the paragraph style to horizontal line while inserting a grapical horzontal line does what i expect. I think it should be possible to right-click a horizontal line to change its properties. This is very confusing and frustrating for new users. See this thread for an example. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=users&by=thread&from=5862 Another alternative would be to modify the help file to explain this inconsistent behavior. great work so far guys! brad
Reassigned to Bettina.
I see the facts, but I do not see a real problem. Steps to reproduce with 1.1RC1: 1. Open "New Text Document 2. Press <ENTER> 10 times 3. Press <Cursor Up> 6 times and look to the Paragraph settings: on my PC "Default", "Times New Roman 12", Alignment "left" 4. Menu: Insert - Horizontal Ruler - Plain 5. Press <ENTER> 2 times 6. Menu: Insert - Horizontal Ruler - 'first graphic rule below "plain"' 7. Now press >Cursor up> and see line by line and watch the Paragraph settings: Line "Graphic Ruler": Alignment --> "centered" Line "Plain Ruler": Style --> Horizontal line Textstyle --> "Times New Roman _6_" Brad, do I understand you correctly, you are wondering whether there is a difference in the behavior for those both horizontal rulers? Rainer
Rainer: Thanks for response! I think it is strange that a horizontal rule (note: it should be "horizontal rule" not "horizontal ruler" in english) has inconsistent properties depending on whether it is a graphical rule or a plain rule. As you note in your example a plane rule modifies the paragraph style while the graphcial rule inserts a graphic. Conceptually these are the same (a device intended to break up the flow of text). The user adds them from the same dialog box - she should be able to remove/modifiy them in the same fashion. If you have a look a the thread i mention you'll see that this does catch users out and cause frustration. In fact it caused me to have to install MS office because one of my users got so frustrated with this inconsistent behavior. In short, I think the problem is that both rules do not behave the same when they are the same logical object. Another example that I just thought of... if you insert a speial character ("A" from times new roman) and then you insert a fancy speial character ("A" from Zaph Chancery) wouldn't it be strange it you had to treat them differently to change their size or delete them etc.? best wishes! brad
Please try using the latest OpenOffice 1.1 Final , you can download it from www.openoffice.org many bug fixes and enhancements since your version and 1.1 Final . If the problem still happend in 1.1 please report back
This behaviour has not changed in version 1.1 . Graphical rules and plain rules do not exhibit the same characteristics. If you all feel that this inconsistency is unimportant the just mark it WONTFIX. Also from m-w.com ruler = a smooth-edged strip (as of wood or metal) that is usually marked off in units (as inches) and is used as a straightedge or for measuring rule = a metal strip with a type-high face that prints a linear design note: rule can also mean "measuring device" but ruler cannot mean "linear design" thanks for a great office suite! brad
I see your point, Brad. Set to New.
*** Issue 41832 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
I can reproduce it on OOo-dev 3.2.0 DEV300m44. Described behaviour has not changed in present version.
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements".
*** Issue 116592 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***