Issue 75692 - 4 ways to submit issue - need to have one well thought-out
Summary: 4 ways to submit issue - need to have one well thought-out
Status: CLOSED WONT_FIX
Alias: None
Product: QA
Classification: Unclassified
Component: www (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P2 Trivial
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: christoph.lukasiak
QA Contact: issues@qa
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Reported: 2007-03-24 02:52 UTC by kpalagin
Modified: 2007-08-28 20:19 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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2007-03-24 02:55 UTC, kpalagin
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2007-03-24 02:56 UTC, kpalagin
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2007-03-24 02:56 UTC, kpalagin
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Description kpalagin 2007-03-24 02:52:02 UTC
We have at least 3 submissions paths to submit new issues:
1. The most obvious one - "New" link (leading to 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/enter_bug.cgi) in IssueTracker. It is good in 
in a way that it gives list of all components WITH descriptions (which is 
important), but bad in a way that does not promote high quality issues. 
See illustrating screenshot "subm1.png" - circled in green is list of 
components, circled in red is the path which leads to the page.
2. The one that forces good behavior, but does not provide list of components 
with their descriptions - click "My Pages", then "File issue" (leading to 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html).
See illustrating screenshot "subm2.png" - circled in green is the path and 
circled in green are points the user needs to consider to increase quality.
3. One that is out of the main roads - 
http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html, leading to 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/submission_gateway.html. It is sort of 
OK, but seems redundant. 
See "subm3.png" - clickpath is shown in blue. 

I suggest enhancing one of the sumbission pages to include both references to 
how file good issue (which is essential for reducing load on QA and 
developers) and provide list of components with descriptions to again aid in 
filing good issue, and make that page the only submission point.
Comment 1 kpalagin 2007-03-24 02:55:40 UTC
Created attachment 43897 [details]
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Comment 2 kpalagin 2007-03-24 02:56:14 UTC
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Comment 3 kpalagin 2007-03-24 02:56:49 UTC
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Comment 4 stx123 2007-03-28 09:12:55 UTC
The QA project takes care of the non-CEE issue handling pages...
Comment 5 kpalagin 2007-04-03 07:33:56 UTC
Yet another page to submit bug
http://qa.openoffice.org/helper.html

This one seems to have good instruction.
Comment 6 kpalagin 2007-08-09 07:29:04 UTC
Dear developers,
any progress with this RFE?

Thanks a lot for your attention.
WBR,
Kirill Palagin.
Comment 7 Frank Schönheit 2007-08-27 12:53:34 UTC
1. We liked to change link 1. to point to 2., but this is not possible due to
restrictions in the collab.net framework. I.e., 1. is not fixable.

2. is the "one and only" submission link, at least as far as we can control it.
(For instance, in every project except qa, the left-hand link "Report A Bug"
leads to this page.) Well, at this this was the intention when introducing it.

3. http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html nowadays leads to
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html instead of
../submission_gateway.html, which is correct.
I agree that ooQA-ReportBugs.htmlooQA-ReportBugs.html is redundant - more on
this later.

4. http://qa.openoffice.org/helper.html is something we were not aware of - I'll
add it to the submission gateway as additional option, since this is where it
IMO belongs to.
Comment 8 Frank Schönheit 2007-08-27 12:56:48 UTC
Last part is done - see
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/submission_gateway.html
Comment 9 Frank Schönheit 2007-08-27 13:00:04 UTC
Also changed http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html to show
the "be registered/logged-in"-requirement more prominently. This is to match the
flow on http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html, which does
make sense IMO.
Comment 10 Frank Schönheit 2007-08-27 13:02:16 UTC
fs->clu:wg: It's up to you now to decided whether
http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html is a "duplicate" of
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/pre_submission.html.
Comment 11 christoph.lukasiak 2007-08-28 13:51:39 UTC
clu,wg: after a longer discussion and analyzing with fs, we came to the
conclusion that the current oo qa concept is proper and not redundant

1. more than one way is valid if we want to reach a different part of community
- in our case lower experienced oo qa community members (other ones do probably
not even visit this side)
2. the 'report bug' side contain more info than the 'pre submission' page and
was created by the qa reloaded concept
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA_reloaded) => direct link to the
'submission gateway' side
Comment 12 christoph.lukasiak 2007-08-28 13:55:14 UTC
clu->kpalagin: for further explanation/discussion, please write me a mail

thx
Comment 13 kpalagin 2007-08-28 20:19:12 UTC
I am glad that we have made progress on this issue.
Thanks to everybody.
WBR,
KP.