Issue 73353 - Mailserver rejecting all emails from jpmcc
Summary: Mailserver rejecting all emails from jpmcc
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: Mailing lists (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P1 (highest) Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unknown
QA Contact: issues@www
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Reported: 2007-01-11 07:35 UTC by john.mccreesh
Modified: 2007-01-22 13:32 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: TASK
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2007-01-18 13:08 UTC, john.mccreesh
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Description john.mccreesh 2007-01-11 07:35:33 UTC
The site mail server is rejecting emails I send. As far as I can see it applies
to all lists - here is an example:

Jan 11 06:58:06 403lrw postfix/smtp[30670]: E7F2F18690D:
to=<logos@marketing.openoffice.org>, relay=none, delay=39199, status=deferred
(connect to cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]: server refused to talk to me:
554 cylon2.sjc.collab.net  )
j

This is an urgent issue. I suspect it is the reason for a 'lost' posting to a
security list, warning that journalists had picked up a story ahead of our
official announcement.

John (Marketing Project Lead)
Comment 1 stx123 2007-01-11 08:47:15 UTC
Please send a message to Stefan.Taxhet@sun.com and CC: st@openoffice.org.
This allows to debug the full header and will give us the IP of your MTA.
Comment 2 john.mccreesh 2007-01-11 19:01:16 UTC
Jan 11 18:53:31 403lrw postfix/smtp[4678]: connect to
cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]: server refused to talk to me: 554
cylon2.sjc.collab.net   (port 25)
Jan 11 18:53:31 403lrw postfix/smtp[4678]: 745DD186919: to=<st@openoffice.org>,
relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (connect to
cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]: server refused to talk to me: 554
cylon2.sjc.collab.net  )
Jan 11 18:55:21 403lrw postfix/smtp[4680]: 745DD186919:
to=<Stefan.Taxhet@Sun.COM>, relay=btmx1.Sun.COM[150.143.103.54], delay=111,
status=sent (250 Message received and queued)
Comment 3 stx123 2007-01-11 19:44:44 UTC
I received the messaged addressed to my @sun account.
According to the Received: header the IP address we are looking for is
82.41.57.20
Received: from 403lrw.homelinux.org ([82.41.57.20] [82.41.57.20])

According to http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=82.41.57.20
this IP is in a range blacklisted by several services.
The recommendation is to "use your ISPs mail server".
Is this an option for you?
Comment 4 john.mccreesh 2007-01-12 08:45:16 UTC
The cable service I use is pretty reliable; their mail server is not. 'Range 
blacklisting' is a very lazy (and inaccurate) tool for email rejection and I'm 
surprised OOo subscribes to it. If we continue to do so, then there is an 
obligation on us to report back to the list provider when there are mistakes in 
the list, and get them corrected.

The fact that our mail server is rejecting valid emails isn't a problem for the 
*sender* of the email to resolve...
Comment 5 stx123 2007-01-12 17:27:09 UTC
John, I strongly recommend to avoid sending messages out of banned IP ranges.

Nevertheless, Support, could you please whitelist the IP address range
82.41.0.0/16 (82.41.0.0 - 82.41.255.255).
Comment 6 Unknown 2007-01-12 21:51:25 UTC
Accepting the issue
Comment 7 Unknown 2007-01-12 22:00:08 UTC
I have filed an internal ticket,will update you once the ip address is whitelisted
Comment 8 john.mccreesh 2007-01-15 18:29:57 UTC
When can I expect this to be resolved?

Thanks - John
Comment 9 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-15 19:42:35 UTC
support, would you be able to see if this can be expedited? the user is a lead of a major project.
thanks
louis
Comment 10 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-15 19:43:22 UTC
john, in the meanwhile, can you use a google account or some such?
louis
Comment 11 Unknown 2007-01-15 21:39:50 UTC
Louis,

I have asked the internal team to look into this immediately. Would update on
their response.

Regards,
Ramya
Support Operations
Comment 12 Unknown 2007-01-15 23:53:34 UTC
Louis,

The IP address range 82.41.0.0/16 (82.41.0.0 - 82.41.255.255) has been
whitelisted.Please ask the reporter to verify.

Regards,
Ramya
Support Operations
Comment 13 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-16 03:41:42 UTC
Uhm, Support, you need not go through me! :-) The user, John, can surely verify it's working or no on his 
own and actually communicate with you, once the issue has been filed.  For future, please communicate 
directly with the user. He is, after all, getting these emails, anyway, as he filed this issue. :-)

Reassigning to jpmcc.
Comment 14 john.mccreesh 2007-01-16 07:14:52 UTC
As of 07:12 GMT nothing appears to have changed:

Jan 16 07:12:31 403lrw postfix/smtp[21227]: 138FC186781:
to=<jpmcc@openoffice.org>, relay=none, delay=36997, status=deferred (connect to
cylon2.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.18]: server refused to talk to me: 554
cylon2.sjc.collab.net  )

John
Comment 15 john.mccreesh 2007-01-16 08:13:59 UTC
Reassign to support
Comment 16 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-16 15:20:07 UTC
support, will you be able to look into this?

Thanks
louis
Comment 17 john.mccreesh 2007-01-16 18:49:34 UTC
As of 18:35 GMT/UTC:

Jan 16 18:35:55 403lrw postfix/smtp[25828]: 138FC186781:
to=<jpmcc@openoffice.org>, relay=none, delay=78001, status=deferred (connect to
cylon1.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.10]: server refused to talk to me: 554
cylon1.sjc.collab.net  )

John
Comment 18 Unknown 2007-01-17 00:55:06 UTC
John,

Will check this internally and would keep you updated.

Regards,
Ramya
Support Operations
Comment 19 john.mccreesh 2007-01-17 19:15:41 UTC
Times in UTC/GMT:

Jan 17 19:13:55 403lrw postfix/smtp[9810]: 90884186909:
to=<logos@marketing.openoffice.org>, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred
(connect to cylon1.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.10]: server refused to talk to me:
554 cylon1.sjc.collab.net  )

Still no progress - John
Comment 20 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-17 23:12:03 UTC
Support, I'm aware that there are many other things on your collective plate, but this issue is of 
considerable importance, and not just to the affected project lead (who happens to be *marketing* lead). 
Please see if you can resolve this soonest!  

Thanks,
Louis
Comment 21 Unknown 2007-01-17 23:32:14 UTC
John,

Could you please provide the full header for our investigation.

Regards,
Ramya
Support Operations
Comment 22 john.mccreesh 2007-01-18 08:24:48 UTC
I'll send another email and wait for the message to time out. However, you 
already have the error message ...
Comment 23 Unknown 2007-01-18 09:08:47 UTC
John , 
   Please include/attached the complete mail header of the mail which you sent
out to the list . That would be allow us to diagnose the problem faster .

Thank You 
Jobin.
Comment 24 john.mccreesh 2007-01-18 13:07:40 UTC
Attaching file as requested
Comment 25 john.mccreesh 2007-01-18 13:08:51 UTC
Created attachment 42277 [details]
Text of rejected email
Comment 26 Unknown 2007-01-18 13:35:26 UTC
Have provided the header information to our engineers for investigation.
Comment 27 john.mccreesh 2007-01-19 13:13:06 UTC
Any update? I'm still seeing the same error:

Jan 19 13:11:14 403lrw postfix/smtp[24645]: 278E21868CF:
to=<marcondiscuss@marketing.openoffice.org>, relay=none, delay=103492,
status=deferred (connect to cylon1.sjc.collab.net[204.16.104.10]: server refused
to talk to me: 554 cylon1.sjc.collab.net  )

Can we not just switch off the blacklisting as - judging by the volume of spam
that gets through - it seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
Comment 28 Unknown 2007-01-19 13:54:57 UTC
The reason that cylons (our AV/AS filter appliance) are refusing mail from this
network address is because they're on a black list and the reason the ip range
is on a black list is because some hosts in that network block been sending a
lot of spam/virus. 

We don't have any hosts on a whitelist that just allows delivery of mail from
any hosts on the cylons (other than our own servers).

If we add this network block to the whitelist of some sort that might mean
increased number of spam/virus for all Sun customers.  As far as we can see
there is no way to allow this network of addresses specifically for
openoffice.org domain.

Stefan & Louis , 

--->Please note that making this change will affect all Sun sites<---

John could you provide us with a give us a smaller ip address range?  Are you
the only one facing this problem ? If so, could your provide us with more
information, i.e.email address you would be sending the email as, Or is this a
group of users having problem sending email from that ip address range? If so
you would have to consider writing to your own ISP to take actions to fix the
problem of being black listed (this might not be a quick solution).

In any case, If you could provide us a smaller ip address range or give us email
addresses that are being used to send.We would be able to help you out with the
situation.

Thanks.
Jobin.
Comment 29 john.mccreesh 2007-01-19 14:02:15 UTC
See Stefan's note Thu Jan 11 11:44:44 -0800 2007: just fix it for 82.41.57.20
and it'll solve the immediate problem.
Comment 30 Unknown 2007-01-19 14:40:52 UTC
John, 

  Have provided the IP information to the engineers .
Comment 31 john.mccreesh 2007-01-20 11:30:14 UTC
and I am happy to report I that everything is working again...

John
Comment 32 lsuarezpotts 2007-01-22 13:32:29 UTC
closing