Issue 42864 - Request: Stand-alone Impress Viewer
Summary: Request: Stand-alone Impress Viewer
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 22147
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: viewing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: requirements
QA Contact: issues@graphics
URL:
Keywords: oooqa
: 62120 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-02-15 18:48 UTC by drigloi
Modified: 2007-06-28 13:24 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Stand Alone Flash Player, Linux (1.24 MB, application/octet-stream)
2006-02-27 18:45 UTC, drichard
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Description drigloi 2005-02-15 18:48:25 UTC
Dear Developers!

My name is Gábor Iglói. I'm a medical doctor in Hungary. I'm fond of 
opensource software and using OpenOffice.org for 1,5 years now. I like 
it very much actually I have written all of my important documents using 
this suite including my graduate essay.

I follow the ongoing development of the OpenOffice.org 2.0 and I find it 
very promising. I have welcomed that the insertion of movie clips in 
Impress presentations has been developed. In fact, in the academic world 
it is very important to create and perform nice presentations for 
education. Unfortunately in this world M$ software has the monopoly - 
you just can't replace the PowerPoint because everyone uses it so when 
you bring your CD to anywhere you must supply your presentation in 
PowerPoint format. With Impress you can produce quality presentations 
but you can't transfer it to congresses. Even if you export it to ppt 
format there are some incompatibilities. And until now you could embed 
very limited video clips in your Impress presentations.

I've also read about and searched for OpenOffice Viewer tools. I've read 
about developers' opinions about this topic: too much effort to create a 
stuff like that for all platforms, instead OO.o gives good support for 
HTLM, PDF or Flash export...

This way it will be hard to give the academic world a working option for 
migration. You can't reproduce all effects of an Impress presentation in 
these formats and you can't embed movie clips either.

I would suggest that maybe it would be a very good idea and this could 
make OO.o even more popular if you would create an Impress Viewer. You 
wouldn't need to support all platforms and all OpenOffice components 
because

1. Unix/Linux users have already installed OpenOffice/StarOffice on 
their machines - this is the ultimate office suite for *nix users (I'm 
in this group too:) - so they don't need a viewer app
2. OO.o Writer documents can be exported to PDF quite well so everybody 
can handle them - so a Writer Viewer wouldn't be so important (and OO.o 
has good support for the DOC format)
3. You would develop an Impress Viewer for only the MS Windows platform, 
because other platforms' users probably has and use OpenOffice.org already.

That's why I think a standalone Impress Viewer is the most lacked 
component of OO.o. With the availability of a small standalone, 
installable or simply executable official Impress Viewer for Windows we 
could conquer the academic and perhaps the business scene.

Thank you reading my letter,
Gábor Iglói, M.D.
Comment 1 wolframgarten 2005-02-15 19:40:09 UTC
Reassigned.
Comment 2 brendel 2005-11-03 16:12:54 UTC
I can only support Gabors view : I'm also working in an academic environment and
the situation is exactly the same as Gabor describes it : in conferences one
usually windows, very rarely Macintosh computer is used with PowerPoint, so
every body has to bring his presentation in this format.
I actually prefer Impress as I can work more easily and it has possibilities
that PowerPoint does not have. Thus saving under PowerPoint is no use because
then I loose these possibilities/options again .... or have importation problems.
Thus, even I as open source freak use still PowerPoint.
If a Windows based Viewer would exist, it would be much easier to convince
colleagues to use OO. 

Thanks for considering this enhancement

Oliver
Comment 3 flibby05 2005-12-18 11:16:22 UTC
why not install openoffice.org suite instead of a viewer?
both are free.
Comment 4 brendel 2005-12-19 09:19:08 UTC
Because you cannot arrive at a conference with a 80MB installation and insist to
install this on the computer used for the presentations, only to be able to show
your OOo Impress presentation. 
However you can do this with either a standalone .exe presentation or a small ,
viewer-only programm that does not need a installation procedure but only a
doubleclick on the .exe file to start a presentation. And which can similarly
rapidly be deleted afterwards. 
In the moment, at least in the life sciences area that I know well, conferences
and seminars are based on Windows Powerpoint presentations, mosltly for
compatibility reasons. Already Powerpoint on MacIntosh systems give problems and
are thus avoided. In my opinion, as long as OOo does not have a
simple-to-install standalon viewer or the possibility to create from any
presentation a standalone-presentation (with the choices of including linked
files, true type fonts, a viewer, etc). By the way, Powerpoint does all of this
and the installation takes only about 5MB (excluding the presentation file), all
DLL within the same folder, so with one click you can delete all of this again. 

I can only stress again that in my opinion in life sciences OOo could have alot
more more success if you could produce a standalone presentation.
I prefer creating my presentations using OOo, however I do it never for
conferences and seminars where I cannot use my own laptop, as I do not want to
be embarrased with a presentation that has format and action problems.

Bonne fêtes

Oliver


Comment 5 ace_dent 2006-02-16 11:28:10 UTC
Changed Summary text and subcomponent, to better reflect the nature of this
Issue. Being an academic myself I appreciate the request, but think it would be
more useful to enhance the current export features. For example, improving the
Flash (.swf) export would ensure the file would run on most computers, or at
least only require installing the tiny Flash player. This approach minimizes
development effort.
Also see the request for a Writer Viewer, raised in Issue 2762.

Regards,
Andrew.
Comment 6 ace_dent 2006-02-16 11:30:33 UTC
*** Issue 62120 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 7 drichard 2006-02-17 19:12:34 UTC
I hope it's ok to comment on this issue.  There two work arounds that I know of
for this issue:

1) You can nicely publish an Impress presentation into PDF format and use
Acrobat Reader on any platform for view the show.  Each slide becomes a page and
you can easily move between them.  You do lose transitions and sounds, but works
great.

2) http://portableapps.com/apps/office/suites/portable_openoffice  allows you to
run OpenOffice from a USB device like a thumbdrive and take the whole thing with
you and just plug it right into a laptop.

Regards!
Comment 8 drichard 2006-02-17 19:13:19 UTC
cc
Comment 9 brendel 2006-02-20 12:29:09 UTC
Some more comments from the practical side : 
- Export to pdf : Adobe Reader has a nice full screen mode, however animations
won't work , and therefore I can't see how the pdf format can be used for
academic presentations; it's the animations that make OOPresentation or
Powerpoint powerful compared to other grafik progammes, that could theoretically
also be used to create presentations.
 - Export to shockwave flash : similarly in the moment animations don't work,
however with shockwave this problem might be overcome. On the other hand, at
least  when using Internet Browsers to do the viewing, there is no complete full
screen mode. I have tested Mozilla and IE and both still show a naviagion bar in
the full screen mode. For official conferences this is rather disturbing. Would
it be possible to have OO create afile that includes the presentation as well as
a shockwave player? 
The problem is that OOo has some very nice options that are not available in
Powerpoint (at least the versions I know of). If you would like to use these
options, you need to use OO, especially as export to swf or pdf are even more
limiting as the export to ppt. It's frustrating to have the nice options and not
to be able to use them .....

  
Comment 10 drichard 2006-02-27 18:41:39 UTC
I'm attaching GFlashPlayer which I don't believe is shipped by Macromedia
anymore.  It's a standalone flash player for Linux and has full screen support.
 Possibly it will be of use to someone, we use it here to push out documentation
and help 'movies' to our users.
Comment 11 drichard 2006-02-27 18:45:35 UTC
Created attachment 34490 [details]
Stand Alone Flash Player, Linux
Comment 12 hajo4 2006-07-15 02:55:33 UTC
Now we have OOo 2.0.3, but still no plans for an Impress Viewer ?
Comment 13 aziem 2006-10-31 07:37:49 UTC
Possible duplicates
issue 26977: [RFE] Need self-contained executable slideshow
issue 31107: Executable export
Comment 14 kpalagin 2007-06-28 13:21:12 UTC
Seems to be dup of http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=22147.
Resolving as such.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 22147 ***
Comment 15 kpalagin 2007-06-28 13:24:00 UTC
and closing.
Please transfer your votes to 22147.