Issue 40593 - dont't ask every time to save in Ooo format
Summary: dont't ask every time to save in Ooo format
Status: CONFIRMED
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Product: ui
Classification: Code
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
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Reported: 2005-01-13 16:15 UTC by megadix
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:40 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description megadix 2005-01-13 16:15:31 UTC
When you save for the first time in a session a file in a non-Ooo format, a
dialog pops up asking if you really want to do this, saying that you could
possibly lose information.
This is one of the reason why a lot of people try Ooo only a few times, and then
switch back to their old, ugly and _pirated_ MS Office suite! MS Office programs
loose informations too, but they don't warn you about it! Many people don't even
read this dialog, they just close their document and start over and over
again...sigh..

So, here is my proposal: show this confirmation dialog ONLY when creating a new
document instance, NOT when the document is already existent (loaded from
filesystem in any way).
Comment 1 stefan.baltzer 2005-01-26 16:32:56 UTC
SBA: You write " MS Office programs loose informations too, but they don't warn
you about it" and this is what you want OOo do, too? 

"Data loss" in general is a high prio problem. I know about discussions if
formatting data is "data" too. Even the "last print date" can be valuable data
for some users and so on.

Since the default file format used for saving can easily be switched to another
one (in dialog Tools-Options-Load/Save-General), I see no point in "hiding data
loss from the user". 

The uproar of those who take for granted that no warning means no problem is
too-high-a-price.

Reassigned to requirements.
Comment 2 aparan 2005-02-08 08:27:14 UTC
From 680m77 the confirmation comes up with a Don't ask me again checkbox.  Check
this and you will not get the warning again.  If you wan't to bring back this go
to Toos> Options > Load/Save > General > Warn me whne not saving in OOo forma or
default format.

The problem is partly over I suppose. This method also suits users.
Comment 3 megadix 2005-02-08 10:41:58 UTC
This solution seems fine to me, but has its own drawbacks, both for users and
for programmers.
User:
- usually user translates "Don't ask me again" with "Don't bother me" and forgets
- user has to dig through tools/Options/etc to find the configuration and bring
it back (if ever...)
- user has only 2 choices: get this warning every time or not at all
Programmer:
- new configuration items means more code to mantain, potentially in different
places/sub-projects (I'm not too confident with OOo sources anyway)

I think that asking confirmation on the "first save" of documents would be a
more linear solution:
- [user & programmer] no configuration
- [user] nothing to remember: this can save up to 2 bytes of memory in user's
secondary brain-storage (which is unreliable by default eh eh)
- [user] user is regularly warned about the risk, but only once and in the most
important moment in the life of a document: the first date...ehm the first "save" !

Comments welcome as usual
Comment 4 galionlibrary 2005-03-10 16:04:35 UTC
From the perspective of a public library tech. coordinator who deploys OOo 
within the library, this would be a very nice option to be able to set in the
prefs.  We have a lot of patrons who bring in documents in various and assorted
formats, that they've worked on elsewhere, with various software.  Presumably
they will want to continue to work on the document in the other location as 
well, and so saving in the original format (whatever that was) is virtually
always the Right Thing.  Saving in native format instead is in this scenerio
actually more likely to cause data loss, in that the whole document (or, at
least, the updated version) becomes inaccessible when they take it back to 
the other computer.

I understand the underlying reasons for the warning, but in our situation 
it's more noise than signal, and I'd like to be able to turn it off.

My thinking on a "Don't ask again" checkbox is less clear.  Normally I like
those, since they're vastly more discoverable than anything in the prefs
dialog, but in this case I worry that a user might think it means don't 
ask again for this specific document.  Is it possible to word it so that
it's clear it applies to all documents, without making it so long nobody
will read it?
Comment 5 ace_dent 2008-05-16 00:38:35 UTC
OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker - Feedback Request.

The Issue you raised is currently assigned to 'Requirements' pending review, but
has not been updated within the last 3 years. Please consider re-testing with
one of the latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been
addressed. Either use the recent stable version:
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Andrew
 
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