Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 40593
dont't ask every time to save in Ooo format
Last modified: 2013-02-07 22:40:26 UTC
When you save for the first time in a session a file in a non-Ooo format, a dialog pops up asking if you really want to do this, saying that you could possibly lose information. This is one of the reason why a lot of people try Ooo only a few times, and then switch back to their old, ugly and _pirated_ MS Office suite! MS Office programs loose informations too, but they don't warn you about it! Many people don't even read this dialog, they just close their document and start over and over again...sigh.. So, here is my proposal: show this confirmation dialog ONLY when creating a new document instance, NOT when the document is already existent (loaded from filesystem in any way).
SBA: You write " MS Office programs loose informations too, but they don't warn you about it" and this is what you want OOo do, too? "Data loss" in general is a high prio problem. I know about discussions if formatting data is "data" too. Even the "last print date" can be valuable data for some users and so on. Since the default file format used for saving can easily be switched to another one (in dialog Tools-Options-Load/Save-General), I see no point in "hiding data loss from the user". The uproar of those who take for granted that no warning means no problem is too-high-a-price. Reassigned to requirements.
From 680m77 the confirmation comes up with a Don't ask me again checkbox. Check this and you will not get the warning again. If you wan't to bring back this go to Toos> Options > Load/Save > General > Warn me whne not saving in OOo forma or default format. The problem is partly over I suppose. This method also suits users.
This solution seems fine to me, but has its own drawbacks, both for users and for programmers. User: - usually user translates "Don't ask me again" with "Don't bother me" and forgets - user has to dig through tools/Options/etc to find the configuration and bring it back (if ever...) - user has only 2 choices: get this warning every time or not at all Programmer: - new configuration items means more code to mantain, potentially in different places/sub-projects (I'm not too confident with OOo sources anyway) I think that asking confirmation on the "first save" of documents would be a more linear solution: - [user & programmer] no configuration - [user] nothing to remember: this can save up to 2 bytes of memory in user's secondary brain-storage (which is unreliable by default eh eh) - [user] user is regularly warned about the risk, but only once and in the most important moment in the life of a document: the first date...ehm the first "save" ! Comments welcome as usual
From the perspective of a public library tech. coordinator who deploys OOo within the library, this would be a very nice option to be able to set in the prefs. We have a lot of patrons who bring in documents in various and assorted formats, that they've worked on elsewhere, with various software. Presumably they will want to continue to work on the document in the other location as well, and so saving in the original format (whatever that was) is virtually always the Right Thing. Saving in native format instead is in this scenerio actually more likely to cause data loss, in that the whole document (or, at least, the updated version) becomes inaccessible when they take it back to the other computer. I understand the underlying reasons for the warning, but in our situation it's more noise than signal, and I'd like to be able to turn it off. My thinking on a "Don't ask again" checkbox is less clear. Normally I like those, since they're vastly more discoverable than anything in the prefs dialog, but in this case I worry that a user might think it means don't ask again for this specific document. Is it possible to word it so that it's clear it applies to all documents, without making it so long nobody will read it?
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