Issue 3354 - We need a resolution state for incomplete bug reports
Summary: We need a resolution state for incomplete bug reports
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: Bugzilla (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: CEE Rubicon
Assignee: Unknown
QA Contact: issues@www
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Keywords:
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-03-05 14:44 UTC by peter.junge
Modified: 2021-05-27 19:28 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description peter.junge 2002-03-05 14:44:27 UTC
Hi,
in the moment there's no real state to flag a bug with a lack of information.
You can set them to 'invalid' or 'worksforme' but in most cases this doesn't
match the intended goal.
A new flag called i.e. 'incomplete' would give an better overview on open tasks
and unexperienced bug reporters would better understand what you want from them.
Thanks, Peter QA - StarOffice
Comment 1 lsuarezpotts 2002-03-08 21:40:12 UTC
Try using "Invalid" and explain the difficulty. 
louis
Comment 2 peter.junge 2002-04-08 16:40:41 UTC
Hi Louis,
invalid and incomplete describe different states. Invalid means that
the issue isn't an issue at all. Incomplete should indicate that there
is (or could be) an issue but the submitter hasn't given all the
information he should. For this case invalid is to harsh. This may
cause some people loose interest in reporting bugs.
Best regards, Peter
BTW: Sorry for the late answer but I didn't find any email in my
intray. Could it be that automaticly generation is broke.
Comment 3 peter.junge 2002-09-20 15:06:02 UTC
PING ;-)
Comment 4 brant 2002-11-04 21:21:19 UTC
mozilla.org uses qawanted keywords for this purpose.  needhelp is
already adopted from mozilla.org.  qawanted should work as well and
make transitioning of mozilla.org developers to this BugZilla variant
easier.
Comment 5 Frank Schönheit 2003-07-01 12:26:59 UTC
Not sure if a keyword is the better solution - it can be overlooked
more easily.

I definately agree with Peter that there is a problem - currently, we
can only use workarounds (ask in the bug, wait, and then close the bug
if there is no response). This is pretty unsatisfying. We need a
method to clearly indicate "We're willing to deal with this bug, but
are missing information to reproduce it".

Louis, is there any chance that the Scarab will feature this?
Comment 6 Unknown 2003-07-01 16:54:49 UTC
What about leaving the issue assigned to the user who needs to
respond? It'll be clear to all involved that the issue is pending
comment and the user will also get email reminders. 

I agree w/ Louis's recommendation also, closing an issue as invalid
and asking for more information is a better way to go.

Sounds like a process review may help more than adding a new feature. 
Comment 7 peter.junge 2003-07-01 17:32:28 UTC
@Kenneth:
Hi,
of course your suggestion is state of the art for correct workflow in
QA. Normally a task should be with the person who's to take action.
Unfortunately not everybody played the correct moves at the right
time. We moved away from this practice not too long ago because we had
a enormous stack of 'forgotten' issues asigned to people all over the
world.

@Michael:
I'm now assigning it to you because you're the one in charge to speak
for the QA project.

Best regards, Peter
Comment 8 Martin Hollmichel 2003-07-01 18:56:25 UTC
I don't see the need of an incomplete state:

* if an issue is initially inclomplete, reassign to committer and ask
for full information.

* if additional information is needed during lifetime of an issue,
just file a new issue and make it dependent to the current one. so you
have the complete overview.

so please explain me, why we need an additional state ?!
Comment 9 michael.bemmer 2003-07-02 08:02:14 UTC
Martin et al, I want to have _less_ issues in the system, not _more_
than we already have. Your suggestion:
"if an issue is initially inclomplete, reassign to committer and ask
for full information".

No, please never. Those are the bugs, that will get lost in the system
forever. I want the competent people to be owners of the bugs. If
something is missing, write a comment, but stay the owner. The
submitter gets an email notification. If you don't get an answer
withing lets say two weeks, close the issue, kindly offering the
possibility to re-open. I agree that a status "incomplete" would be
great, because then people could jump on those, but honestly: who will
ever do that?
I would still say that this issue should be handled as an RFE for Scarab.
Comment 10 michael.bemmer 2003-07-14 09:06:56 UTC
Would be great if we could handle the new status "incomplete" as a
valid RFE for the successor of IssueZilla.
Comment 11 Unknown 2003-07-14 19:06:45 UTC
Update: In Project Tracker (IssueZilla's successor), Domain 
Administrators and Project Owners will be able to define these values 
themselves.
Action plan: Reassigning to pj for review. This is an issue for 
discussion with openoffice administrators, perhaps Stefan.
Thanks,
Kristen
Comment 12 peter.junge 2003-08-05 11:26:42 UTC
@Stefan:
I agree with Kristen. You're opinion would be quite useful. Please
consider also that the indroduction of this flag would also ease
alignment of workflow for StarOffice internal and external bugtracking.
Best regards, Peter

@All: Reasigning it to default owner. Everybody should feel free to
add hers/his two cents.
Comment 13 Frank Schönheit 2003-08-05 15:48:09 UTC
- MS agreed that this state would make sense
- collab.net said it IZ' successor, it will be possible for Domain
Administrators to define such values
=> IMO, the next person to take action is Stefan, once the new system
is in place.
Leaving this issue with issues@www doesn't make sense now, IMO ....
Comment 14 stx123 2003-08-15 16:09:18 UTC
I also agree, that the ability to introduce a new states is a great
improvement. Reassigning to support for resolving as resolved/later
and status whiteboard update.
Thanks, Stefan
Comment 15 Unknown 2003-08-18 14:07:25 UTC
Closing this as resolved later and updated the whiteboard.
Comment 16 Unknown 2007-03-07 16:22:47 UTC
Setting the milestone as 'CEE Consid-future'.

Regards,
Karishma
Support Operations
Comment 17 Unknown 2009-01-19 10:42:48 UTC
Reopening to update the status.


-Jeeva
CollabNet Support
Comment 18 Unknown 2009-01-19 10:43:49 UTC
Marking this as Resolved/Fixed per CollabNet's policy as the feature is
available in Project Tracker, the successor of Issue Tracker.


-Jeeva
CollabNet Support