Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 26065
Misplaced hebrew diacritics. WAS: Really, really bad kerning seems to emanate from OO, not the font (Hebrew)
Last modified: 2005-02-21 17:08:57 UTC
I'm attaching a document that illustrates how OO handles Hebrew diacritics, which seems to be not very well. I'm not an expert, but the problem seems to emanate from OO, not the font itself, which is just a standard ttf that works fine in Word/Windows.
Created attachment 13542 [details] File with Hebrew word that illustrates bad kerning
Created attachment 13543 [details] Hebrew true type font with diacritics (to demo OO's seeming kerning problems)
MRU->US: please have a look.
Is this another "weak character problem" (issue 18024)? - this has caused spacing problems with polytonic greek as well (see issue 21290) so maybe this is related? But since I don't know hebrew, I add sforbes to cc...
The issues with classical or biblical Hebrew will be similar to those of polytonic Greek. In both cases, you have multiple diacritics often being applied to the same basic letter form. In the case of biblical (or any diacritized) Hebrew, though, the problem is compounded because 1) You have a base consonantal alphabet 2) You then have vowels added as diacritics 3) You then have 'accents' acced over and above the vowel diacritics 4) There are often multiple diacritics per letter It's not phenomenally complex. But you do have to handle information in the fonts well to get things right.
I don't want work on this restricted to people who know Hebrew, so let me offer a diagram of how the script system works. Note that it's right to left so the first character in the diagram (which I'm attaching right after I submit this update) is actually at the far right. When you load the diagram, you'll be looking at the first word in the Bible, 'in the beginning' (or actually, translated literally, 'in beginning' or perhaps 'in the beginning of').
Created attachment 13610 [details] Diagram showing how Hebrew script works (focusing on the first letter of the Bible)
Duplicate to issue 28576. *** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 28576 ***
Closing dupe.
Not absolute shure whether issue 28576 also fixed this one completely. Could anyone else pls. cross check. At least when integrated in the next 680s snapshot. Thx. @goerwitz: or could you pls. check the screenshot taken from the childworkspace containing the fix. Does the following screenshot display your bugdoc correct?
Created attachment 15781 [details] fixed hebrew diacritics (?)
>fixed hebrew diacritics The hiriq under the tav seems to be in the wrong location (it should be centered, not under the left stem).
The same goes for the qamatz under the bet.
Thanks Soshanna for the input. Thus I'm loosen the duplicate flag.
HDU, can you pls. look for the diacritic problem issued in this task. Thx.
May be the Problem is the font. I changed your Font to the free SBL-Hebrew Font. Now the hebrew word looks nice!
When I shift to the free SBL Hebrew font I get basically the same result as before (misplaced diacritics). I'm using a straight oowriter executable (OpenOffice 1.1.0) running off a Fedora Core 1 RPM.
>running off a Fedora Core 1 RPM Then this is a dup of issue #14069 Why was this filed under "other/all" and not under linux? *** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 14069 ***
Closing duplicate