Set target to 1.1, cc'ing louis.

vq->louis: Sorry Louis, I took you as a representative for
marketing and webside issues.

Hi,

Huh?  The links point to installation instructions that have not changed since OOo 
1.0.X.  The only difference is that step 4 of the manual instructions is now optional.

So manual installation of dictionaries is the same.  No OOo 1.1 sepcific piece is 
needed?

What am I missing?

Kevin

Hi!

> Huh?  The links point to installation instructions that have not
> changed since OOo 1.0.X.  The only difference is that step 4 of the
> manual instructions is now optional.
>
> So manual installation of dictionaries is the same.  No OOo 1.1
> sepcific piece is needed?

I know, but the page is crowded with OOo 1.0.x hints which _might_
confuse unexperienced users. I thought a clean fresh page only
talking about OOo 1.1 would not confuse new users.

We should not frighten them with complicated special cases.

Hi,

I agree that the pages are a bit busy but this is true of all of the pages at OOo!

If you would like to send me some html :-)  I would be happy to split the instructions 
on installing into a separate page and use your new html for the instructions.
The problem is my html stinks and if it were up to me most of pages at OOo would 
have about 2000 less words on them (starting with teh mailing list pages!) so my 
style of html does not fit the OOo templates well.

Thanks!

Kevin

Ok, I didn't change the markup, it's still horrible ;-), but I cleaned
up a bit. (Attachment follows)

Created attachment 8895 [details]
New html files

Hi,

as you are "revamping" the page concerning dictionaries installation, 
Christian Markgraf told me to point you on a work I hope to release 
during next week
http://fr.openoffice.org/project/www/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18191

you can read a presentation of DicOOo on the native-lang archive
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?
msgId=800416&listName=dev

Feel free to contact me if you need more information

Laurent Godard

Hi all,

If you really want to make it easier for most users, you should think
about a more radical restructuring!

For de.openoffice.org we still have a translation of
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/download_dictionary.html
available at:
http://de.openoffice.org/spellcheck/about-spellcheck-detail.html
But nevertheless there have been too many problems with linguistic
installation on our de-users mailing list.
Therefore we have changed the concept, to offer a more user friendly
installation with screenshots as default page.

Now we have the following structure:
> Installers (links)
> local German LangPack files (must be changed)
> LangPack_full (must be changed)
> Easy installation manual with screen shots (must bee changed)
> FAQ (linguistic related)
> Additional information (links to the old dictionary page translation)
see:
http://de.openoffice.org/spellcheck/about-spellcheck.html

Now the “old (technical)” spellcheck page is in the second row and
there is much less information overkill and confusion for not so well
instructed users.

We run this concept since end of April, now there are much less
problems then before. Most users find everything, easy explained, on
the new page. Who is searching for more detailed information finds
everything under “Additional information”.
Such concept works, at least for de.

But ours German LangPack files are not flexible and so an “only
native-lang fit" solution. This must be changed to another more
flexible solution for the main site.

I think DicOOo is a good candidate therefore because:

It is system independent.
Only one installation manual is needed.
It is the only installer which can handle thesaurus.
It writes a working dictionary.lst.
No shell commands or editing is necessary.
Offline support (prepared zip files for CD burning are supported)
It is easy and quick to add or change a language for localization.
LGPL

Currently DicOOo the only solution which could (easy) work with such
concept.

One more Idea, It would be great, to set the ownership for such new to
build page to the documentation project (or so) instead of lingucomponent.
Doing so, should ensure more feedback and contact with users to be
more flexible and userfriendly.

Just my private thoughts...

Best regards
Chris

> One more Idea, It would be great, to set the ownership for such new to
> build page to the documentation project (or so) instead of
lingucomponent.
> Doing so, should ensure more feedback and contact with users to be
> more flexible and userfriendly.

As this issue is somewhat stalled, I follow this suggestion.

I forgot to reset the owner

as OOo 1.1 is released, so I retarget this for 1.1.1

can we get this on 1.1.1 , or we extend again ? 

I re-target this one to 1.1.2, as obviously no one will finally "fix" this. If
that is not accepted, please assign a real person to fix it, not
"issues@documentation".

Kevin, Laurent,

will you provide such documentation? I do not think we should describe manual
editation of dictionary.lst, so what about extending DicOOo functionality to add
the dictionary via GUI and describe the GUI in the file itself?

Reassigning to Kevin.

Hi, 
 
I am simply closing this as fixed. 
 
Links to DicOOo tutorials already exist at: 
 
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/dictpack.html  
 
and are in German, English, Spanish and French. 
 
Manual installation instructions have long existed on http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org  
 
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/manual_instal.html 
 
So I never quite understood what this issue is about. 
 
I am closing it.  If someone wants to reopen it, please be prepared to explain why the current 
documentation is insufficient. 
 
 
Thanks, 
 
Kevin 
 
 

Now closing this. 
 
Kevin