Issue 17950 - first paragraph after a table looses numbering
Summary: first paragraph after a table looses numbering
Status: CLOSED NOT_AN_OOO_ISSUE
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 RC4
Hardware: PC Linux, all
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: jack.warchold
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-08-07 00:11 UTC by fkater
Modified: 2003-12-04 12:04 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


Attachments
sample sxw file (8.37 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-08-07 00:11 UTC, fkater
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sxw doc (38.69 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-08-21 12:02 UTC, fkater
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Description fkater 2003-08-07 00:11:06 UTC
Hi, I'll create an attachement to show what I mean: You'll see a one-line Table
of Content-field. The next paragraph you see is a paragraph where I put the
letter "x" only and which is of style "heading". In the contrary of the
following paragraph (which is also "heading" and working all right) you *don't
have no numbering* displayed here! It is disappeared. And you can't re-produce
it in clicking again to "heading" in the "stylist".

As you can see that even my "text body" style has a numbering (the "+" sign) by
default all this leads to the problem that after tables I've got one paragraph
which I can't use...
Comment 1 fkater 2003-08-07 00:11:39 UTC
Created attachment 8290 [details]
sample sxw file
Comment 2 tamblyne 2003-08-20 23:25:43 UTC
The lastest release is 1.1rc3.  Please advise if upgrading has solved
this issue for you.  

If not, I think this might be an issue that the users mailing list can
help you with.  

Please advise of status.  Thank you,  

Tam  






Comment 3 fkater 2003-08-21 12:01:41 UTC
Hi Tam,
first let me confirm the "issue" for RC3.
Second: Yesterday I was again typing in a doc (with the same numbering
/ list 1 style for my paragraphs)--and even without using a table one
of the paragraphes lost its numbering. See attachement test3.sxw I
will attach now.
There are workarounds for it--but it's not as easy as reassigning the
"text body" paragraph style to it: nothing changes. You have to assign
other styles and then come back to "text body" style etc.
Even though this might not be a "big" issue I think all this is a
quite strange behaviour--especially because the style catalog in these
unnormal paragraphes lead the user to wrong information: the style
catalog still says that these paragraphs (which appear numbering) *do*
have numbering / list 1...
Thank you!

btw: I've seen this behaviour for several versions of OO now!
Comment 4 fkater 2003-08-21 12:02:17 UTC
Created attachment 8625 [details]
sxw doc
Comment 5 fkater 2003-08-21 12:05:09 UTC
sorry, a typo!

The last sentence should be:

"the style catalog still says that these paragraphs (which appear
WITHOUT numbering) *do have* numbering / list 1...
Thank you!"
Comment 6 tamblyne 2003-08-21 13:45:30 UTC
Hi, Felix

Thanks for the additional information and document.  

Unfortunately, I can't confirm this issue.  While "line 2" did,
indeed, show as having the "text body" style applied, and yet was not
numbered as you desired, this behavior will occur if/when you press
"enter" twice.  

However, when I placed the cursor on that line and applied the "text
body" style, the behavior was as expected and the style was applied. 
Likewise, when I selected several lines of text and applied the "text
body" style, the style was applied as it should have been.  

You are saying that this does not work for you, and you have to apply
a different style and then re-apply your "text body" style, but I am
not experiencing this.  

Therefore, please send more information about your system, i.e., which
distribution of Linux you are using and your desktop (GNOME or KDE?),
and perhaps someone with your configuration will be able to confirm
the problems you are having.  

Thanks!

Tam  

WinXPPro/RH9/KDE 3.1/OOo 1.1rc3

Comment 7 fkater 2003-08-21 14:37:21 UTC
Hi Tam,

thanks for the answer! To be more precise now: :-)

(1) You are right - forget about test3.sxw, please! I can't reproduce
this behaviour either. Sorry.

(2) But things are different with my first attachement (test.sxw).
There is a heading (see line I marked with an "x") which should be
numbered but the numbering (list1) isn't displayed for some reason.
First, I don't know why (maybe there is any sense in it?). Second,
here it is not possible to get back the numbering via re-assigning the
"heading" style to this paragraph... Notice also, that the second
heading is numbered correctly (with "II.")-- so, oowriter knows that
there is a heading above somewhere (which is true) but it doesn't give
it a numbering ("I."). Now:

(3) Maybe this has something to do with the Table of Content before..?
Notice that the "Heading of the Table of Contents" is numbered "I."!
And really: The style of the Table of Content has numbering turned on.
So I change this style and set numbering to "none". It disappears (ok)
but my heading below (with the "x") still doesn't get its numbering...

(4) Further: Save the doc as test2.sxw, close it, reopen it. Place the
cursor into the paragraph "Heading of Table of Content", click right
and select "Update Table": There the numbering for the heading of the
table appears again!! Why?

Maybe all this is just one bug (?)

I am using gentoo-linux (www.gentoo.org, kernel 2.4.20), no KDE, no
GNOME but fvwm-2.5.7 with xfree-4.3.99.

I hope you can follow my chaotic descriptions! :-)
Felix
Comment 8 fkater 2003-09-24 23:50:59 UTC
Let me add something related to numbered paragraphs (I don't start a
new issue for that since this is just a minor issue): page breaks,
column breaks etc.

If you have numbered paragraphs and insert a page break then you get a
numbered (but empty) paragraph on the first page -- and a second
numbered paragraph on the second page.

This is not what the users expects. To delete the unwanted numbered
paragraph on the first page you have to go there and delete it.

A solution to this (and maybe to many other problems with numbered
paragraphs) in my point of view is that the line feed / carriare
return sign is treated as a character! This is of course due to former
text applications where the chr(13) had to be inserted.

What, if you would treat a page break as as *property of a paragraph*
(like you have indents, spaces before and after etc)?

This would not only solve the page break / numbering thing but also
add the feature that e.g. a headline style could automatically include
a page or column break.
Comment 9 fkater 2003-09-24 23:55:48 UTC
Sorry: In my last comment, please replace "The solution for this" (4th
paragraph) with "The problem is ..."
Comment 10 jack.warchold 2003-11-13 17:40:48 UTC
reassigend to jw

will try to reproduce
Comment 11 jack.warchold 2003-11-17 15:04:32 UTC
i see what you ment, but if i activate reactivate numbering and 
bullets for this paragraph i got the numbering for this paraghraph 
with the x.
but i see you are right numbering and bullets is allready set for this 
paragraph strange. but i am not able to produce an document like this, 
if i inseret a index/table and assign numbering to it and after this 
table set a heading with numbering enabled this will be set.
so i please tell me, if possible with an step by step advice what you 
did.

set keyword needmoreinfo
Comment 12 fkater 2003-11-17 15:50:11 UTC
Hi, I am sorry that I can't give you step by step instructions how to
reproduce a document with the same behaviour. Only thing I found out:
The header in my attachements doesn't seem to have any effects on
that. You can switch it off, save, reload, you get the same.

Please notice: It's true, the template to this doc is kind of old
(created with OpenOffice 1.0?). And the problem may be caused by
currupted styles (however these are stored in the file). So, one of
the probs we have is, that these errors occur far later than you can
imagine what you did. Maybe only after upgrading OpenOffice.

You shouldn't set this error to worksforme or something similar,
though. Many users will have the problem to upgrade OpenOffice but
*use their OLD templates*.

Since I get more of these kind of errors (see my other issues if they
aren't deleted meanwhile): I beleve that the only way to solve all
this you should have a strict filter/parser to old sxw templates!

Besides this general proposal I could only recommend this: My
impression is that assigning/reassigning numbering is point to start
with. Why isn't it numbered correctly at once after being loaded?
Further: Why can't you get the numbering via simply click again on
"heading" but have to assign another style to it first?

Sorry, if I can't give you more precise details!
Comment 13 jack.warchold 2003-11-20 11:00:19 UTC
i will make further investigations on this file.
this might be an regression.

still will leave this unconfirmed until i can say more about this 
error
Comment 14 jack.warchold 2003-11-27 16:44:35 UTC
added needmoreinfo
Comment 15 jack.warchold 2003-12-04 12:03:27 UTC
hello felix.
to the first file. this behaviour is now clear. if you press, maybe 
accidently, the backspace button, the textstyle will be persist but 
the numbering will disappear. this is a feature.

i will set this to invalid
and close this
Comment 16 jack.warchold 2003-12-04 12:04:57 UTC
invalid -> closed