cp->ssa: I'm not sure if "Format -> Page" is the required setting.
Please have a look. 

SSA: You actualy have to use Format->Page to specify the page layout.
The printer settings are for page layout are ignored.

SSA->FL: I see a big usability problem here. Users are used to the
printer settings dialog from other applications and expect landscape
printouts when choosing it. If we have really no solution to the
problem (due to multiple tables with different orientation in a single
print job) , we should at least warn the user if he actually changes
the orientation in the printer settings.

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Suggestion: Format -> Page should go away entirely and be merged with
File -> Printer Settings as that is where it appears in 99.9% of the
applications I use (oo.o being the 0.1%). Users are sure to find it there.

There are still maladies in landscape printing: The left margin is
non-existent, in fact the printer cuts off the first character of the
leftmost SS cell. In addition, the header and footer are not
horizontally centered. Page preview looks OK -- I hope this isn't a
Linux/CUPS printer driver issue.

Printing on Letter paper under Linux on HP LaserJet 6L.

Format Page should definitely stay as otherwise it would not be
possible to have documents with different layouts for different pages.
But the printer dialogues should be redesigned so that one cannot
select things that have really no meaning.

I agree that this is usability problem if people think can change the
print setting, but cannot. we must try to solve this problem. or find
the middle solutions before 2.0. we cannot leave it like that. It is
serious.  

Note: Sorry, My Printer Ink is empty now, So I cannot try to print
using OOo 1.1 RC5. But I believe it is still exist

FL: Just a note: We have to keep in mind that the user could use the
printer settings to change the paper orientation to landscape when he
wants to print two (or more) portrait pages on a landscape oriented
paper to save paper.

FL: The user tries to use this dialog to change the document paper format and
the competition offers a Page Setup entry in the same place.

We need the pager setting dialog (different formats and orientation within a
single document), but we do not need the Printer Settings dialog by default.
This dialog has been introduced in a time when StarOffice needed a printer for
text formatting. Since we do not need to have a installed printer anymore
(printer independent formatting as new default), we can go without this special
dialog, if the printer dependent formatting option in Tools-Options-Text
Document-General-Use printer metrics for document formatting is unchecked. The
system's default printer is set as the default printer for each new document. If
printed on a different printer, the new printer is stored as default.

FL->OS: Please change the following:
- Display the “Printer Settings†menu entry in the File menu only if the printer
dependent formatting option in Tools-Options-Text Document-General-Use printer
metrics for document formatting is checked.

Note: The Print dialog also offers the Properties... button (i.e. to set the
paper orientation orientation for special features like printing two portrait A4
pages on a single A4 landscape paper) to change printer settings, but the dialog
can only be confirmed by printing the document with OK. 

FL->MMP: Since you are responsible for the main menu: Do we want to add a “Page
Setup...†entry after the “Print...†entry that calls the Format – Page dialog
like competitors do? (and keep the menu entry Format - Page in the context
sensitive Format menu as well).

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changed prio from 2 to 3

changed summary

please have also a look at issue 18245.

it describes the behaviour also for Writer and provides again a very
understandable description of the problem.

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adding "Writer" to description

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this wont make it into OOo2. we have feature freeze end of august 2004

same problem with OOo 1.1.3 on a linux box.

We have the following patch to workaround this issue:

http://www.go-oo.org/patches/src680/printer-properties-disable.diff

according to PL, the patch is just for Unix. It removes the control to choose
the paper orinetation for landscape. I will have a look quite soon (keep the
fingers crossed)
Changing the platform to "All".

Thanks mmp - this is a knotty issue I think; Debian / Ubuntu disable our patch -
based on user feedback, which you can find here:

# Disable the printer properties which are unused#583
# related issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=353595
# also last comment in: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=83925
# also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=373974

It'd be great to unwind all of this & work out exactly what should be happening ;-)

mmp can you please update you comments that you will look at the patch 
http://www.go-oo.org/patches/src680/printer-properties-disable.diff
to be working for all platform too ? 
I think it is usability issue.

Thanks

If we decide to omit the landscape control at all, we should remove it as a
whole, not disable the UI on some platforms. So changing type to enhancement.
However it seems to be unclear whether we want that or not. Personally i think
the landscape setting in the printer settings is useless nowadays as the page
style will always override it. Since writer does not ask the printer for its
format anymore when opening a new document, even the paper format is questionable.

set target 3.x

I am no longer officially active on OOo. Please take over.

I am no longer officially active on OOo. Please take over.

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