Issue 11630 - "Printers Latin" appears at end of Report Generator Auto-Pilot
Summary: "Printers Latin" appears at end of Report Generator Auto-Pilot
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Base
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: 644
Hardware: PC Windows 2000
: P4 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: OOo 2.0
Assignee: berend.cornelius
QA Contact: issues@dba
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-02-19 12:34 UTC by phillg
Modified: 2006-05-31 14:29 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


Attachments
screenshot before clicking finish (24.79 KB, image/jpeg)
2003-02-19 12:35 UTC, phillg
no flags Details
screenshot of proposed report heading (65.06 KB, image/jpeg)
2003-02-20 13:04 UTC, phillg
no flags Details
Report dialog with fake text note (10.15 KB, image/gif)
2003-03-05 08:23 UTC, christian.jansen
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Description phillg 2003-02-19 12:34:37 UTC
Use the Report Auto Pilot and when you reach the final screen (with the Finish
button on) you will see your chosen layout on the page, but each cells will be
filled with "printers latin", i.e. "ut wisi enim ad".  Although this disappears
when the real data is imported in (by clicking finish) I think this will confuse
people.

I have posted this as a defect as I wonder whether it should be there in the
first place.  If it is not please reclassify as Request For Enchancement.

P h i l l
Comment 1 phillg 2003-02-19 12:35:17 UTC
Created attachment 4797 [details]
screenshot before clicking finish
Comment 2 Frank Schönheit 2003-02-19 14:21:04 UTC
cc'ing bc - Berend, your opinion 'bout this?
Comment 3 berend.cornelius 2003-02-19 16:24:21 UTC
It was necessary to insert some kind of text. The length of the text
has to be dependent on the allowed length of the database. After that
the columnwidth could be calculated via slot according to the needed
column width. We chose a latin text simply because it is the least
confusing text. Any other localized Blindtext that is interruppted
would look much more confusing and erroneous (like "Peter goes to"). 
This has been decided in coordination with the User Experience
Comment 4 Frank Schönheit 2003-02-19 16:57:05 UTC
Then can't this text be inserted with textcolor=background color, or
removed immediately after the column widths have been calculated?
Comment 5 berend.cornelius 2003-02-20 09:15:12 UTC
No this would not be consistant to db fields of other types where also
a a sample content is inserted like '9876,54'. Some kind of sample
text must always appear because it gives the user necessary layout
information.
Comment 6 marc.neumann 2003-02-20 09:27:27 UTC
set target
Comment 7 Frank Schönheit 2003-02-20 12:20:32 UTC
But I don't agree with the "least confusing". Sorry, "ut wisi enim ad"
is something which looks like rubbish to me who I never had latin.

Phill, do you think the text confuses because there is text where the
user wouldn't expect it, or because it's text they don't understand?
If the latter, another blind text could help, if the former, then we
may have a problem because Berend says the text is necessary ...
Comment 8 berend.cornelius 2003-02-20 13:03:00 UTC
Talked this over with Stella. She says latin blindtexts are very
common especially in the commercial business because they don't
distract the user's attention from the layout. And I think this is
exactly what we want to achieve in this matter. A localized Text
interupted in the middle of the sentence would only raise unnecessary
questions.
Comment 9 phillg 2003-02-20 13:03:51 UTC
I think it is a bit of both.  Having tried to get the report
auto-pilot working I expected it to be German and I took it as a sign
that it had failed.  I guess filling it with 'xxxxxxxx' is possibly
equally as confusing.  

To solve this problem take a look at attachment 'fake text.jpg'.  By
changing the title of that screen of the report auto-pilot I think
users would understand why it was happening.  In doing this is it
possible to turn of the auto-spellchecker for those two screens (in
the screenshot and the final one with the Finish button) as I think
the red wavy lines look bad?
Comment 10 phillg 2003-02-20 13:04:33 UTC
Created attachment 4810 [details]
screenshot of proposed report heading
Comment 11 Frank Schönheit 2003-02-20 13:52:54 UTC
I like the idea of an explanatory text, but I don't like the suggested
location :). I think in the heading of the dialog, there should be a
short description of the current pilot step, not an explanation - this
would be somewhat inconsistent (and probably be overlook by people who
never read this heading :).

Could there be space in the document view to be used? A Really Cool
Thing (TM) would be if there would be some kind of note in the
document view, with an associative line to the text :). But this may
be too much work for this issue ....
Comment 12 berend.cornelius 2003-02-28 09:56:32 UTC
I favor the explanatory text too, but would place it somewhere in the
dialog. I will talk this over with CJ from user experience at the end
of the following week, because he is quite busy right now
Comment 13 marc.neumann 2003-03-03 14:44:27 UTC
Hi,

Why not use simple XXX as it was before?
MS Access also use XXX for display dummy data.


Bye Marc
Comment 14 berend.cornelius 2003-03-03 15:06:23 UTC
Because you would have to use "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX"
then to calculate the optimal width in dependence of the needed
fieldlength. Looks also silly doesn't it?
Comment 15 christian.jansen 2003-03-05 08:21:57 UTC
I can live with a short explaining text. It should be located below
the to listboxes (see attachement). I propose a string like:

Note: Some of the text you will see in the report preview is fake text.
Hinweis: Teilweise ist der Text den Sie in der Report-Vorschau sehen
werden Blindtext.

But the string should finalized by Liz.
Comment 16 christian.jansen 2003-03-05 08:23:38 UTC
Created attachment 4983 [details]
Report dialog with fake text note
Comment 17 christian.jansen 2003-03-05 08:26:52 UTC
Please tak a look. When OK, please send the task to Liz for GUI string
review. She should finalze that because I will be on vacation at the
end  of this week. Thanks.
Comment 18 berend.cornelius 2003-03-05 10:48:54 UTC
The screenshot looks fine but the comment must also appear on the
layout step two steps further. There we don't have that much space
below the listboxes.
Comment 19 e.matthis 2003-03-10 18:45:19 UTC
ENGLISH
Note: The dummy text will be replaced by data from the database when
the report is created.
GERMAN
Hinweis: Blindtext wird bei der Fertigstellung des Berichtes durch
Datenbankinhalte ersetzt.
Comment 20 berend.cornelius 2003-03-19 17:04:57 UTC
BC: Fixed the bug in the CWS extras4. After discussion with MMP from
user experience we decided not to turn off the spellchecker.
Comment 21 marc.neumann 2003-04-04 13:49:09 UTC
verified
Comment 22 berend.cornelius 2003-07-25 10:23:38 UTC
BC: Done and closed!
Comment 23 hans_werner67 2004-02-02 12:10:20 UTC
change subcomponent to 'none'