Issue 106233 - Bullets Don't Work as they Should
Summary: Bullets Don't Work as they Should
Status: CLOSED NOT_AN_OOO_ISSUE
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOO310m19
Hardware: All Linux, all
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: writerneedsconfirm
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-10-23 22:34 UTC by jmadero
Modified: 2009-11-02 20:34 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


Attachments
Bullet Bug Example 1 (9.76 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet)
2009-10-24 18:32 UTC, jmadero
no flags Details
Bullet Bug Example 2 (33.95 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-10-24 18:33 UTC, jmadero
no flags Details
Last Line Noted for Unknown Indentation (13.32 KB, text/plain)
2009-11-02 20:24 UTC, jmadero
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Description jmadero 2009-10-23 22:34:08 UTC
Please look at the following bug report for details as well as a file that
contains the issue. This bug makes it very difficult to use "auto" bullets at
all in OOo 3.0.1. I can no longer use it for outlining because I face this
problem often. Thank you

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/384354
Comment 1 eric.savary 2009-10-24 09:32:12 UTC
http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/basic_rules.html
If you open a report here, you detail it here.
Please describe it here correctly and set the flags (i.e. "version") accordingly.
This includes also a meaningful summary.

BTW: 3.0.1 is too old. Re-test your findings in a current version.
Comment 2 jmadero 2009-10-24 18:31:42 UTC
I apologize for the poor bug reporting. Here is a more thorough one.

My OS: Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 RC

OOo version: 3.1.1

The issue:

This bug has been verified in OOo 2.4, 3.0 and 3.1.0, running Hardy, Intrepid
and Jaunty

Bullets don't tab correctly sometimes. I have found that when you move the top
spacers is one of those times, the other one I just found out last week and I'm
not sure what caused it, my Professor gave an outline and the tabs are working
very poorly. 

My example is bullets bug.odt, for this one just try to tab and you'll see that
the bullets don't move with the tab, they simply change "bullet style" and stay
in the same position. 

The second example, titled bullet bug 2.odt, you can see two different issues.
The first is try to tab the bullet "what is statutory control?..." and you'll
see that multiple different bullets tab over. Then try making a new line under
the same bullet ("what is statutory control?.."), and then try tabbing the new
bullet line. Again you'll see that the tabs don't make the bullet shift, they
simply change bullet styles.

I have attached two document to show what is happening. If you push tab on the
line below Call to Order you can see that the bullet doesn't move at all, it
simply changed from I to A and so on in the same position.

Comment 3 jmadero 2009-10-24 18:32:50 UTC
Created attachment 65577 [details]
Bullet Bug Example 1
Comment 4 jmadero 2009-10-24 18:33:50 UTC
Created attachment 65578 [details]
Bullet Bug Example 2
Comment 5 Joe Smith 2009-10-25 02:42:40 UTC
Both of your examples mix layout from two sources: the numbering and the
paragraph. You can see this if you select the list items and turn numbering
off--you will see that the paragraphs have different formatting, leading to
unpredictable and inconsistent results when you mix indents and tab stops from
the numbering.

You can clean up both documents by first making the formatting the same for all
the list items:
1) Click somewhere in the first list item
2) Click the "Format Paintbrush" on the toolbar
3) Click and drag the brush over the following list items, then release the
mouse button. This copies the formatting from the first item to the other items.

The items behave consistently for me at this point.

I believe the remaining unusual behavior comes from the mixed formatting
sources. I suggest that you modify the paragraph formatting to set all indents
to zero and remove all tab stops, and instead do all the indenting and layout
through the numbering.

You can easily indent a list by putting the cursor at the start of the first
item and pressing Tab. Instead of changing the list level, Tab on the first item
will indent all levels of the list.

Using numbering styles instead of the toolbar buttons will also make lists
behave more predictably.

The OOo support forums would be a better place to discuss this:
http://user.services.openoffice.org
http://www.oooforum.org
Comment 6 eric.savary 2009-10-25 12:03:19 UTC
Or simply, in most casees:
- select a bunch of bulleted paragraphs which are not correctly aligned
- press 2 times Shift+F12
-> bullets are alihned correctly.
Comment 7 eric.savary 2009-10-25 12:03:33 UTC
Closed
Comment 8 jmadero 2009-11-02 20:22:50 UTC
I do not think that this problem is resolved. With the two examples I provided
it's true but outlining still messes up. I have attached another example, as you
can see everything is fine until the last line where I put a note. I started
this document from scratch, selected the outline format and just by pushing
enter all the sudden the last line started indenting for no reason. If I move
around the top "notches" on the ruler bar I can adjust it but it does it
automatically, not sure why.
Comment 9 jmadero 2009-11-02 20:24:32 UTC
Created attachment 65874 [details]
Last Line Noted for Unknown Indentation
Comment 10 eric.savary 2009-11-02 20:34:39 UTC
That's an other problem which is not a problem...

The latin numbers take more space to the right (i, ii, iii) when incremented and
thus the tab has no space to expand and moves to the next available tab stop.

To cure this effect: Format - Bullets and Numbering. Open Position tab page and
choose "Numbering alignment: right".

Please, in the future, ask for help and bug confirmation on users@openoffice.org
before submitting an issue.
Thank you!
Comment 11 eric.savary 2009-11-02 20:34:52 UTC
closed