Issue 102351 - Bullet Management
Summary: Bullet Management
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOO320m5
Hardware: PC Windows Vista
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: needmoreinfo
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Reported: 2009-05-29 06:27 UTC by openii_cameron
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:55 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Attachments
File with bullet management issues (1.16 MB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.presentation)
2009-11-06 09:27 UTC, openii_cameron
no flags Details
A simplified presentation showing this issue (35.34 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.presentation)
2009-11-21 22:10 UTC, yu2
no flags Details

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Description openii_cameron 2009-05-29 06:27:59 UTC
Found in version 3.0.1

Bullets are difficult to manage.

In Microsoft Word you can select to create a bulletted list for any paragraph 
and when you press enter on the end of a line, it automatically creates a 
bullet at the beginning of the next line. This does not happen in OpenOffice 
Impress. To get bullets on each line I had to trick the system by creating a 
bulletted list in Word and then cutting and pasting it into Impress using the 
Paste Special function. Even then I had to delete unknown characters at the 
beginning of each line and on occasion it came up with different sized bullets.

The On/Off switch for the bullets only seams to manipulate the bullet on the 
first line.
Comment 1 wolframgarten 2009-05-29 08:14:27 UTC
Sorry, not reproducible. Selecting the title/text layout sets bullets to every
new line. Using a normal textbox it is easy, too: type a line of text, click
bullets on/off and all following lines will get bullets,too.
Please give a detailed step by step description. Thanks.
Comment 2 wolframgarten 2009-07-02 14:30:55 UTC
No more info received.
Comment 3 wolframgarten 2009-07-02 14:31:21 UTC
Closed.
Comment 4 openii_cameron 2009-07-03 06:40:33 UTC
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

The sequence of events that created the error is as follows:
1. Created a new document using the sequence from the template wizard
     Once opened I played around with header position, inserted a picture, 
played around with footer position, changed background, image size etc.
2. Selected the second page in the presentation
     Changed some presentation elements, positioning, picture size etc.
3. Selected a bulletted list from a document created and opened using Word 97
4. Pressed Ctrl C
5. Selected the example text in the OpenOffice document to the end of the line
6. Pressed Ctrl V
7. Text came out garbled with squares at the beginning of the lines and bullet 
colour changed
8. Pressed Ctrl Z
9. Text was removed and went back to before except with a smaller font
10. Created a text document on the desktop
11. Pasted the text into the text box
12. Removed the squares from the front of the lines
13. Copied text back into the OpenOffice document and it came up with only one 
bullet at the beginning of the text block. In my document where I experience 
the problem, the text is not separated by a gap between the lines (I may have 
changed the formatting here to achieve this)
14. Moved cursor to the front of the second line and pressed backspace. It 
moved to the end of the first line so then I pressed Enter and it just moved 
back to the second line. No additional bullet created.

I have since found no way to get bullets to work properly in this created 
document. I resolved the problem by manually inserting pictures where I wanted 
the bullets but long term this solution is not satisfactory.

Starting from scratch and using the sequence as above and playing around with 
different options the pasted text regularly converts to the Symbols font 
without warning and other erratic behaviour occurs. I do not consistently end 
up with a bullet problem when starting from a new document but there is always 
some erratic behaviour.

Ctrl Z also does rarely return the document to a pre-pasted state.
Comment 5 wolframgarten 2009-10-22 10:32:28 UTC
Please attach the document you have created where xou have problems getting the
bullets to work.
Comment 6 openii_cameron 2009-11-06 09:27:47 UTC
Created attachment 65981 [details]
File with bullet management issues
Comment 7 yu2 2009-11-21 22:05:52 UTC
Such behaviour is a result of having the “Title†style applied to problematic 
text boxes. MS PowerPoint behaves the same way. It seems that this is not a bug 
but rather a “feature†of the “Title†style.

Please use simplified “Invention Development and Design - abridged v8.odp†to 
reproduce this issue.
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Slide #1 (Text in a main textbox is formatted with “Title†style) has this 
problem. “Bullets On/Off†button adds/removes only one bullet for the first 
line of the text. There are several ways to reproduce this problem:
1) Put cursor onto the last line of the text, do not select any text, and 
click “Bullets On/Off†button.
2) Highlight the whole block of text in this text box and click “Bullets 
On/Off†button.
3) Highlight the third line of text in this text box and click “Bullets On/Off†
button.

In all these cases a bullet can be added only to the first line of the text.
Adding new lines using “Enter†key doesn’t change this behaviour.

Note: This slide was originally created by openii_cameron. You should be able 
to recreate this issue in any presentation in both OpenOffice and PowerPoint by 
using a Title text box (on the top of a slide).

Slide #2 (Text in a main textbox is formatted with “Default†style) doesn’t 
have this problem. “Bullets On/Off†button adds/removes bullets as expected. 
I created slide #2 by copying a text box from a “Normal†PowerPoint 
presentation to the current one.

My speculations:
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1) I noticed that the problematic text box on a slide #1 was formatted 
with “Title†style.
2) By copying a text from slide #1 to MS Word I noticed that it looks like 
slide #1 has only one paragraph and that pressing “Enter†key inside a text box 
of a slide #1 adds a new line but doesn’t create a new paragraph.
3) Text in a title of a normal OpenOffice presentation also can have not more 
than one bullet. 
4) MS PowerPoint manages bullets of a text formatted with “Title†style the 
same way; such text can have not more than one bullet regardless of the number 
of "paragraphs".
5) I believe that the text boxes of the original problematic presentation were 
created by copying and extending a text box of a “Title†of a slide.

Identical behaviour was observed on OOO310m19 (Build:9420) and OOO320m2 
(Build:9432) on Windows XP SP2.
I failed to find a corresponding specification document on 
http://specs.openoffice.org.

It seems that the OpenOffice design team is willing to bend over backwards to 
make its products compatible with MS Office products including design bugs and 
idiosyncrasies.
Comment 8 yu2 2009-11-21 22:10:43 UTC
Created attachment 66231 [details]
A simplified presentation showing this issue
Comment 9 wolframgarten 2009-11-23 10:27:49 UTC
Problem reproducible on slide 4. Selecting text in textbox and switching bullets
on generates only one bullet.
Comment 10 Marcus 2017-05-20 10:55:30 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".