christof Yeah. I think they refer to X fonts. For X fonts i does not matter how often you have installed them mdekkers because "locate arial" only shows one flavour of arial - and you said "locate arial" is not convincing :-) mdekkers so, i tried to remove all ttf's, and re-install them mdekkers but still the same issue happens christof You may have installed a font file with a very different name. In fonts.dir you just call them Arial. Redhat 7.2. does so in latin2/type1 directory mdekkers for example, just now, did a clean install of ooo, as a user (not with /net) mdekkers start OOo first time, without doing anything with fonts mdekkers AA is perfect mdekkers close, and start OOo again mdekkers AA is gone mdekkers now, this machine is pretty standard, nothing weird mdekkers bogstandard SuSE 7.3, with X 4.2 and KDE3 christof strange. Please have a look at the file share/psprint/pspfontcache. Does that contain you arial font ? mdekkers hang on mdekkers continuity:~ # cat /opt/ooo100/share/psprint/pspfontcache | grep arial mdekkers File:ariali.ttf mdekkers File:arialbi.ttf mdekkers File:arialnbi.ttf mdekkers File:arialn.ttf mdekkers File:arial.ttf mdekkers File:arialni.ttf mdekkers File:arialbd.ttf mdekkers File:arialnb.ttf mdekkers continuity:~ # mdekkers hmmmm - rm /opt/ooo100/share/psprint/pspfontcache mdekkers start OOo christof Ok, you seem to have a set of 4 Arial and 4 Arial Black installed. where are these files located ? mdekkers AA works perfect mdekkers continuity:~ # locate arial.ttf mdekkers . continuity:~ # locate arial.ttf mdekkers . /usr/X11/blah/arial.ttf mdekkers hey, chris, did you get that? mdekkers i remove pspfontcache mdekkers AA works fine mdekkers close OOo mdekkers start OOo mdekkers AA is gone mdekkers again remove pspfontcache mdekkers AA works fine mdekkers again start OOo mdekkers AA gone christof do you / OOo have write access to /usr/X11/blah ? mdekkers run as root mdekkers right now :-) mdekkers it isn't really blah, though mdekkers . /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/arial.ttf christof please examine the fonts.dir file in that directory. Does it have a current time stamp ? christof Is it modified mdekkers . -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 83753 Apr 27 19:18 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/fonts.dir mdekkers removed and re-created it on the 27th christof Ok second try. Please copy the 4 Arial files to OOo/share/fonts/truetype. Is AA more persistent now ? mdekkers no mdekkers first time i start, yes mdekkers close, start again mdekkers AA gone christof What version of OOo ? mdekkers final christof can you send me the pspfontcache file that does not work ? mdekkers what's your mail? christof christof.pintaske@sun.com mdekkers on the way christof Ok, when AA is gone does Arial still appear in the font list box of the writer application ? mdekkers yes - blocky and ugly. Also, when AA is gone, dashes turn into questionmarks etc christof that makes me wonder mdekkers when AA works, so do the other characters, like dashes christof please start xfontsel and check if Arial available there and if it looks the same as in OOo christof I would like to know if it is rastered by us or by the XServer mdekkers in xfontsel it looks ugly christof Does your XServer uses a fontserver ? mdekkers hmmm - and xfontsel thinks it is a monotype font mdekkers nope - no xfs mdekkers while this arial was grabbed off MS christof Please remove the truetype dir from the fontpath mdekkers ok christof By the way MS bought many fonts from monotype mdekkers fontpath of X? christof yep. I would like to know if it still appears in xfontsel afterwards mdekkers ok mdekkers do i need to restart X? christof no, just do a "xset fp- /usr/X11R6/...../truetype" christof and restart xfontsel mdekkers still there, arial christof what does "xset -q" tell mdekkers all ttf's are still there....? mdekkers a lot - what am i looking for - the fontpath? christof yep! I'm just looking for kandidates that may include Arial as well mdekkers hmmm truetype is still there mdekkers ,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype, mdekkers xset fp- : mdekkers xset: warning, no entries deleted from font path. mdekkers when removing fontpath mdekkers oh - hang on mdekkers don't I have to do something with rehash? christof with the dash ? mdekkers xset fp rehash christof oops no. shouldn't be necessary mdekkers xset fp- /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ mdekkers xset: warning, no entries deleted from font path. christof please try to rename the truetype directory to sth. different and do a xset fp rehash mdekkers X Error of failed request: 86 mdekkers Major opcode of failed request: 51 (X_SetFontPath) mdekkers Serial number of failed request: 8 mdekkers Current serial number in output stream: 10 mdekkers continuity:/etc # christof what about xset fp default ? mdekkers just runs mdekkers no output christof and now xset -q, truetype still in ? mdekkers no - gone now mdekkers now all ttf are gone from xfontsel mdekkers also arial is gone christof Ok. Please copy the Arial fonts to ooo/share/fonts/truetype and restart OOo (twice:-) mdekkers :-) mdekkers bingo christof works ? even three times ? mdekkers let me check the fourth time :-) mdekkers works mdekkers there are 1 or 2 fonts listed not AA'd mdekkers but arial is AA'd all the time christof which are not AA mdekkers let me see mdekkers helvetica mdekkers one entry above it is just blank mdekkers new century schoolbook christof makes sense. both are XFonts and available on the printer so they'll get into the list mdekkers okay mdekkers now - doctor - do you have a diagnosis? :-) mdekkers do i have long years left to live :-) christof Let's do our homeworks. I'll try to reproduce the problem here. You please install the OOo as a unprivileged user christof don mdekkers okay - this is a setup /net christof dont forget to rename the truetype directory mdekkers but, need to relist my ttf path, or shall i keep it like this for now? mdekkers or copy all fonts, and point X to OOo font dir mdekkers ah - stupid mdekkers this is an X issue, right? christof the ugly Arial fonts seem to be an X issue. christof That AA is gone seem to be an OOo issue. christof I think it's because you have root rights in the X11R6 tree mdekkers thing is 9and this is what freaks me out) mdekkers at home, i don't have this issue, but the software is the smae, up to the same patches etc installed mdekkers and no issues with root/non-root mdekkers just works mdekkers chris, shall i attach the log of this chat to IZ 2999? christof ok just check the unprivileged installation. mdekkers for recordkeeping purposes? mdekkers ok - what do you want me to check? christof rename the truetype dir to it's original name. do an xset fp default again christof check the fontpath with xset -q christof then see if the unprivileged installation is persisten AA mdekkers truetype is there again mdekkers so is the problem mdekkers uhm - need to go offline for this, will be back in a couple of minutes christof oops, just overlooked it: please don't add this log to Iz 2999. 2999 does already contain much too much different problems. Please file a new bug and add a comment to 2999 === mdekkers: No such nick/channel mdekkers same results christof oops, just overlooked it: please don't add this log to Iz 2999. 2999 does already contain much too much different problems. Please file a new bug and add a comment to 2999 mdekkers hehe - ok mdekkers 2999 is closed anyhow christof Now sth completely different. In the problem-is-back-version can you create an strace log of a run ? mdekkers ok - what do you need me to do? mdekkers strace soffice ? christof just do an christof strace -f soffice >& some_outputfile christof soffice will be slow like hell. Just have a look at the font list box to see what about Arial christof please send some_outputfile to my mail adress mdekkers ok christof Do you have a /net installation at home as well ? mdekkers yes mdekkers hmmmm christof both same display depth ? no xinerama ? mdekkers OOo *is* slow as hell mdekkers ehm - no cinerama mdekkers Xinerama mdekkers but dual head mdekkers 2 monitors with 2 seperate sessions mdekkers at home, that is mdekkers ehm - this file, it's gonna be big? christof yep. may be a good idea to compress it with gzip mdekkers :-) christof strace states every system call that OOo makes christof I'm especially interested in seeing how and what it accesses in the file system mdekkers yes - ran strace once on xdm...... mdekkers okay - will this take long, though? my wife is about to pick me up.... mdekkers and i don't want to get in trouble.... :-) christof Ok then we will call it a night mdekkers well - still waiting for startup - looking at the logo still mdekkers this takes, how long? christof I don't know, depends on your machine. Honestly it should be already visible mdekkers not yet mdekkers PIII 800Mhz - 192MB RAM mdekkers you are on hamburg time? mdekkers i can let this run tonight, and send the file in the morning, or will the file grow and grow? christof should be good enough. Please have a look how big the log file is. Can you grep for arial in the file ? christof I'm on Hamburg time. Please don't let soffice run with strace attached. mdekkers yes - lots of stats and reads christof Ok, just stop it. I'll have a look at it. mdekkers file is about 1.5 MB christof that's not too much === mdekkers: No such nick/channel